Hi again

Picking up from the previous thread...

What's this pre-war trainer?:



All the best

Rowan

De Havilland Tiger Moth...

Hi Matthew

No - not a de Havilland.

All the best

Rowan

Stampe SV.4

Hi there

No, not a Stampe.

Time for a clue: Look to South America...

All the best

Rowan

Hi all

Still no closer? I think another clue will give it away...

Ohh well, try Brazil!

All the best

Rowan

brazil? Muniz ? M-7 or M-9 not sure which. no hang on 4 cylinders gypsy M7
the m9 had a gypsy 6 so pretty much a de havilland

Well done JP - over to you for the next one.

All the best

Rowan

No irish connection this time. Simply what is this?

This is a clear example of a factory reject... obviously it is assembled the wrong way

Hi JP

Good grief! What a brute! That's the kind of monstrosity that I'd normally come up with! I'm lost without the Irish connection... I don't know where to start!

All the best

Rowan

From you rowan I'll take that as a compliment. Let see time for a clue. it was designed to be a night fighter

OMG! Supermarine did THAT? They gave us the S.6B, Spitfire, Stranraer, Southhampton and THAT!

Apparently it's a Supermarine Night Hawk.



Supermarine Nighthawk
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Nighthawk
Supermarine Nighthawk
Role Anti-Zeppelin Fighter
National origin United Kingdom
Manufacturer Supermarine
First flight 1917
Status Prototype only
Number built 1
Developed from Pemberton Billing P.B.29E

The P.B.31E Night Hawk, the first project of the Pemberton-Billing operation after it became Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd., was a prototype anti-Zeppelin fighter with a crew of three to five and an intended endurance of 9 to 18 hours. It was first flown in February 1917 with Clifford Prodger at the controls.[1]

It had six-bay swept quadriplane wings, the fuselage filled the gap between the second and third wings, and a biplane tailplane with twin fins and rudders. The cockpit was enclosed and heated.

For armament, it had a trainable nose-mounted searchlight, a 1½-pounder (37mm) Davis gun mounted above the top wing with 20 shells, and two .303-inch Lewis guns. Power for the searchlight was provided by an independent petrol engine-driven generator set made by ABC- possibly the first instance of a recognisable airborne APU.[2]

It was advertised as being able to reach 75 mph, but the prototype only managed 60 mph at 6500 ft and took an hour to climb to 10,000 ft, totally inadequate for intercepting Zeppelins.[3] Given the Anzani's reputation for unreliability and overheating, it is unlikely that the airplane would have delivered the advertised endurance either.

Yes, haha. It couldn't even catch a zeppelin. They would turn on the searchlight and the zeppelin would rise to above 10000ft. Rubbish.
Good call Graeme. Over to you

Thanks, JP.

To something a bit more succesful, but still ultimately a failure ...

Is it the Air Traders Ltd Accountant? A truly fantastic, inspiring name if ever I saw one ...

That didn't last long! Well done, Sean, it is in fact the ATL-90 Accountant. What were they thinking?

I wonder what the most bizarre aircraft name is? I know some car names are a hoot. Ford here had a coupe in the 60s that was called the Tudor, the sedan version was, of course, called the Fodor.

Over to you.

Graeme.

Do not start me on car names. I've been making up definitions for the sillier ones for some time now; I'm up to 27 pages and nowhere near finished. (PM me if you want to see them!)

Okay, since the Accountant faintly reminds me of it ... which airliner's brochure reputedly claimed it featured "portable water"?

I'm guessing it was a toilet. Maybe the Connie?

Nope, sorry. Nothing to do with toilets (I hope!) but not massively far away, though.

Let's shoot from the hip.

It's not a Connie, but not far away. Hmmm. It must be early, and covering long range flights, for this to be a thing to boast about.

My guess is the Boeing Stratocruiser. But I wasn't around in the glory days, so I might be wrong.

Tony

Hi Sean

Portable water, or potable water? I still haven't a clue! - maybe something early like an H.P.42?

All the best

Rowan

Most airline water isn't potable even in the 21st century

http://www.mindfully.org/Water/Airline-Water-Safety1nov02.htm

Read this report. I'm bringing me own bottle from now on.
Oh no we can't because of "terrorists". I'll just get the boat instead

The portable/potable confusion is the key but it's not the dear old HP.42. It is British, though. (That should narrow it down - you can practically count the number of British airliners on the fingers of one elbow ...)

Short s.17 Kent?

If it's british, and the fingers of one elbow is the count, then it just has to be th D H Comet!

(Boy, was I too cocky now) Tony

Neither, I'm afraid. One more clue: think biscuits.

haha vickers viscount?
mmmm minty!

The Sander-Roe Saltine?

Vickers Viscount it is! Apologies there to anyone who doesn't have a clue what we're on about - biscuits, indeed. The legend goes that the terribly stuffy British company boasted of the Viscount having its own supply of "potable water" (as opposed to lugging it on in bottles, I suppose - good thing we've advanced to the point where we, er, still have to lug it on in bottles). The Americans burdened with selling the thing to their customers had no idea what Vickers were on about and corrected the "typo" to "portable water" - which must have confused matters even more.

The other legend is that the brochure had to repeat at intervals "pronounced Vye-count". As Kenny Everett sang, "O-o-oh, you say to-may-to, and I say to-may-to ..."

OK, JP, over to you again.