When was this pattern of zimmerit applied??!

OK, here is a reason: the spare tracks are hanging off the turret with no visible means of support. The kit included the parts for the spare track hangers, and the builder has not used them.

Maybe you shouldn't ridicule the work of another modeller just because he chooses to call himself a professional, which, if he makes money from his hobby, he is.

I actually think that this is a nice model and certainly similar to my own level of ability, which according to some of the replies here varies from bad to crap.

Maybe you shouldn't ridicule the work of another modeller just because he chooses to call himself a professional, which, if he makes money from his hobby, he is.

How about a new rule. If you blatantly insult the work of another modeller, ridiculing their ability without providing any advice as to how he or she should improve, you have to post a picture of your own work to show that you can do better.

This elitist crap bugs the hell out of me...

Gee, David. You, of all people, should be savvy to the floating tracks. Everybody knows that the Germans conducted "zero point" anti-gravity experiments. Being able to keep the tracks suspended without any visible means of support means that the unused steel could be used for other purposes.

Gotta go. My Glocke is double parked outside.

Maybe you shouldn't ridicule the work of another modeller just because he chooses to call himself a professional, which, if he makes money from his hobby, he is.

How about a new rule. If you blatantly insult the work of another modeller, ridiculing their ability without providing any advice as to how he or she should improve, you have to post a picture of your own work to show that you can do better.

The point is though that this guy is touting this piece as superbly built and finished ... when clearly it isn't. Not by any stretch of the imagination. And as I said, calling something "professionally built" implies a certain high standard that clearly isn't there with this guy's work. Same goes for the King Tiger with the - ahem - 'Zimmerit' that Dean linked to.

To take another example, there are plenty of "cowboy" builders, plumbers, electricians and other tradesmen out there who produce sub-standard work that's not fit for purpose. Just because they charge for the privilege doesn't mean they're any good - it doesn't mean that they do a "professional" job.

Pro Built! it does not mean that you are a master modeler, anyone can use the phase or term Pro-Built, just by selling a single model or taking on a commission makes it a pro-built model.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Professionally-Built-1-35-Tiger-1-Late-Model-w-figs_W0QQitemZ300354871781QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item45ee8ba1e5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Strictly speaking maybe true (given that he seems to be doing it as a source of income).

But does anyone else here think that "pro(fessionally) built" is one of the most mis-used / misleading phrases bandied about in the hobby today, implying as it does a certain standard of skill that supposedly sets the modeller in question apart from Joe Average?

- Steve

Hey guys, I sell models on EBay off and on and always list them as pro-built. Some are mine, some are re-sold. I got several e-mails from potential buyers complaining about the "pro-part" as well, just itching to start a fight. I just ignore them, really. I do not make a living from this in any way. I think photos and price speak for themselves, but on EBay everyone (most everyone) lists models as "pro-built." I think its just the current trend. Who really cares? I will continue to list them in that way because, I think, many people search "pro-built" to get the list of available listings. Maybe I am wrong though...

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Hey guys, I sell models on EBay off and on and always list them as pro-built. Some are mine, some are re-sold. I got several e-mails from potential buyers complaining about the "pro-part" as well, just itching to start a fight. I just ignore them, really. I do not make a living from this in any way. I think photos and price speak for themselves, but on EBay everyone (most everyone) lists models as "pro-built." I think its just the current trend. Who really cares? I will continue to list them in that way because, I think, many people search "pro-built" to get the list of available listings. Maybe I am wrong though...

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I check out Ebay quite a lot & that's partly what got me back into the hobby. I've even sold a few things, but I never claimed "Pro-Built". I just listed them as "Built"! Listing them as pro-built is very very misleading and implies a skill level exceeding the average hobbyist. It's no different than a group of Buds going out & hitting the links on the weekend & playing for a buck($1) a hole. Because they're making money off of the sport (AKA their HOBBY) does that mean they are professional Golfers??? I don't think so! So this, to me, is the issue with labeling an item "pro-built". it's all a matter of false advertising, misleading potetial buyers, preying on ignorance, and in many cases justifying a truly rediculous price. Just my 2 cents.

I'm going to put these



up for sale on e-bay.

As you can see, they are professionally built dowels. I sculpted them from solid blocks of polystyrene which I manufactured from refined petrochemicals that were obtained from a cracking tower located in my living room. If you look closely, you can see that the wood grain pattern was painstakingly carved, one line at a time. Countless years of research and labor were involved the construction of this professionally built masterpiece. Did I mention that these are professionally built?

Since they are a limited edition, the price for these professionally built replicas will be 10,000 Albanian Leke. Or, a pack of cigarettes. Whichever is less.