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Subject: Pine trees for dummies
SilantraLocation: Johor Bahru, Malaysia
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Posted: Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 05:09 PM GMT
hi guys

i need info and probably a good source of pine trees. I'm going to built pine trees foe my ardennes offensive campaign.

beside pine trees, are there any other type of trees that i can build to represent the ardennes forest??

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Posted: Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 07:56 PM GMT
Here ya go!

http://www.trevinocircle.com/sippin/

I have tried this method and it works like a charm. I will be posting pics when I get the netting (out of stock right now) and have some completed trees to show off.

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Posted: Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 08:18 PM GMT

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Here ya go!

http://www.trevinocircle.com/sippin/

I have tried this method and it works like a charm. I will be posting pics when I get the netting (out of stock right now) and have some completed trees to show off.





wow...this is really amazing!!! thanks steve for the usefull link. i owe u drink man...


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Posted: Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 09:19 PM GMT
Hi all

excellent idea fro making trees, one question what is the material the broom is made from??


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Posted: Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:38 PM GMT
Docdios if I'm not mistaken the material is from coconut husks. Pretty hardy stuff.

Silantra, I working on another idea for pines. Remember the small pine trees I gave you, that works well for young trees. For the bigger ones, well I bought some pine looking branches from the SSR home deco place you mentioned some time back. Just drill some holes in a natural twig and add the branches. Let me know if your'e want some.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 11:39 AM GMT

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Docdios if I'm not mistaken the material is from coconut husks. Pretty hardy stuff.

Silantra, I working on another idea for pines. Remember the small pine trees I gave you, that works well for young trees. For the bigger ones, well I bought some pine looking branches from the SSR home deco place you mentioned some time back. Just drill some holes in a natural twig and add the branches. Let me know if your'e want some.



Beachbum,

yeah...i still remember that small trees..
you know, i been trying to get to SSF Home DEcor since last August but i havent got the chance yet.. what a shame..
that's kind of u to offer me (again) the trees. yes i would love to have it and might as well try this broom method. last night i try with to do small pine tree with this method. At 12.45 am i think the result quite promising. I'd better check on it again this evening.........
till then beachbum........
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Posted: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 02:49 PM GMT

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beside palm trees, are there any other type of trees that i can build to represent the ardennes forest??



I think you could 'build' any other type of tree to go in a Ardennes diorama, but definitly not a palm tree. Now a photo of a palm tree in the Ardennes would be even better than a photo of a Ferdinand in the Ardennes.....(sorry )
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Posted: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 03:23 PM GMT

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beside palm trees, are there any other type of trees that i can build to represent the ardennes forest??



I think you could 'build' any other type of tree to go in a Ardennes diorama, but definitly not a palm tree. Now a photo of a palm tree in the Ardennes would be even better than a photo of a Ferdinand in the Ardennes.....(sorry )



ops...that's a typo
it should be written pine not palm

ahahaha :-)
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Posted: Friday, March 18, 2005 - 09:20 AM GMT
If you want to build nice pine trees check out my website http://www.users.skynet.be/modelbouwsite The idea of making the trees was found in a flower store when is saw the asperagus for the first time. If you need a translation because my site is only in dutch i will send it with pleasure.
You find the article in the top screen under "tips" and then "naaldbomen maken"

Have fun Roel
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Posted: Friday, March 18, 2005 - 09:54 AM GMT

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I will be posting pics when I get the netting (out of stock right now)



The trees are great and look simple to do but I cant figure out what is that netting material made of...What's it's purpose? to add more branches? Maybe we could use some scotch-brite steel wool instead !? I think that selkirk's thing is a bit dificult to get here in portugal

ò/ Francisco
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Posted: Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:25 AM GMT
I made some of my own pines after reading an article in Military in Scale about two years ago. Judging by RoelGeutjens pictures it looks like basicly the same idea. Get some long wooden dowels, shape them to a point, scrape them with a rasp to give it some bark. Then drill a series of small hole all around the trunk. Go to the craft store and look for a material call Pine Boughs (not sure of the spelling) These look like big pine limbs. you then cut off small pieces and insert them in the holes you drilled. Paint to your liking. you can check my gallery for some pics of the trees I did. Good luck.
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 07:43 AM GMT
hello,

I made a diorama with snow once with pine trees in the ardennes
de basic was a pointed piece of balsa wood with texture in it, also drilled holes around and put in some
pieces of asparagus green (latin name) sprayed green, than spray glue over the sperated pieces and do some snow powder over it after 2 hours you can put in the balsa.

feel free to visit the pics of the dio in my gallery.


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Posted: Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 05:23 AM BST
Is this tree-making 'asperagus' from the same asperagus vegetable that (some) people like to eat ?
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Posted: Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 07:18 AM BST
An easy way to make convincing pines is to get a wooden dowel, taper it by sanding, and drill holes in along the length of it. Then go to Michael's, Hobby Lobby, or whoever has dried flowers in your area and purchase some Caspia........

Glue the Caspia along the dowel and viola.........a tree is born.

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Posted: Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 07:32 AM BST

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Is this tree-making 'asperagus' from the same asperagus vegetable that (some) people like to eat ?



No -- it's really an asparagus fern. Hobby Lobby and other places sell it as "Plumosus." When you see it, you'll know it's the right stuff. Looks like little pine branches.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 05:21 AM BST

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If you want to build nice pine trees check out my website http://www.users.skynet.be/modelbouwsite The idea of making the trees was found in a flower store when is saw the asperagus for the first time. If you need a translation because my site is only in dutch i will send it with pleasure.
You find the article in the top screen under "tips" and then "naaldbomen maken"

Have fun Roel


Dude, I just used your Barbwire technique. Outstanding. I really likr the finnished product. Think I am going to go through alot of wire.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 05:35 PM BST
Roel,

I just looked at your site and may I make a suggestion?

If you are putting tips on your site wich are not your own pictures then be a sport and give credit to the original maker

in this case: barb wire technique: by Marty from www.modelhut.com

I also have a lot of tips/references on my site but i always (try to) give credit to the person or website where I lifted the article.

This way you stay good friends with your fellow moddelers and are still helping with spreading the tips

sorry for rambling

[edit] ok not to this topic but the barb-wire article can be found here on Big A (http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=107
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Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:19 PM BST

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If you are putting tips on your site wich are not your own pictures then be a sport and give credit to the original maker

in this case: barb wire technique: by Marty from www.modelhut.com



Ronny my friend, thank you for looking out for me.
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Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 10:44 AM BST
A fellow Armorama member by the name of Charles King had a great method for making Pine trees. It used to be on his website....but I see that its not on there anymore.....I thought that the article was on here somewhere as well....but apparently not.

Maybe if Charles comes by and sees this post, he may have the article squirreled away somewhere and will share it!!!!

Charles are you listening?????
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Great Trees, I will be making a bunch for myself.

Thanks
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2007 - 11:48 AM BST
I started a thread a few days ago tht has produced some exceptional tips.

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=99800&page=1

The last post by Grumpyoldman has some really good ones. He's a great guy too!
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2007 - 12:51 PM BST

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A fellow Armorama member by the name of Charles King had a great method for making Pine trees. It used to be on his website....but I see that its not on there anymore....


I remember this article. Was the first and only method I have tried...
Involved lengths of dowel at the trunk thickness you require, cut and then dremelled along the length to give some texture after shaping a tip to each tree. Holes were then drilled matching the diameter of the main stem of said 'asparagus fern', trying to match the branch alignment of a real pine. It was painted as required. The asparagus fern was used, with pre selected branches for their shape, smallest at the top of course...Then a drop of PVA to the ends before inserting into drill holes.
Each tree will be unique due to the positioning of each bough...
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Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 04:39 PM BST

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beside pine trees, are there any other type of trees that i can build to represent the ardennes forest??



The easiest way to find out is to either use the images feature on Google, or check Corbis.com. Alot of the time these two sites will have a heckuva lot of pics you never saw before.

But to answer your question, it seems as if it was predominantly pine trees.
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