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dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 11:25 PM UTC
This layout will be contained in a box,yes a locked cedar box and will be displayed only at Christmas or other special family occasions.It will be my gift to my family past,present and future.

Why so special ? Well it has been my experience that no matter how nice a layout/diorama is after a while it just becomes part of the furniture.Nobody really sees it anymore except guests or visitors.However, on the other hand ,only seeing something every once in a while will help bring fresh( if not new eyes) to an old piece.Also I don't want to encase it in a tomb like structure, even of glass, but I wish to have it open to natural light, but without the dust, for those who may want to take pictures.

As public as my other stuff will be this will be only for private family or personal viewing.Why do it this way ? Simply I would like something that I made survive for a while after I am gone to the "Happy Hunting Ground" as a gift to my children and the young at heart.I have heard to many stories about how Grandpa Fred's or Uncle Phil's layout ended up in the garbage shortly after his death.Too big,no room,tired of looking at it sit there gathering dust etc..etc..

I know you say nothing survives forever ! No one knows that better than I and besides when I am gone who really gives a *** ? I surely won't ! but you know somehow I do and I don't mind admitting it.Ego you say ?well artists usually do have some of that it is true,Why else would we do what we do ?
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 12:16 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 09:38 PM UTC

Here is what I am planning so far.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 10:26 PM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 04:20 AM UTC
Such a simple solution I don't know why I never thought of it before.A RR station has been built over a coach sitting on a sideline track (spur line?)using whatever materials happened to be at hand.Why ? who knows !, but that is not what is important to our story.
To say the least the station is very crudely built of old weathered siding with RR ties for a platform.It could have been built on one of Hollywood's backlots expressly for this purpose or it could have been just a found location.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 04:58 AM UTC
KoSprueOne
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Posted: Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 05:08 AM UTC
I don't know how I missed this thread.
Very nice wood work and weathered iron




dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 07:57 AM UTC
thank you for your kind words !
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 11:29 PM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 06:07 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 01:39 AM UTC
I was wondering has anyone here had a problem with allergies and super glue ? I have had some problems in the past with the fumes but lately it seems to be getting worse.I am very careful about exiting the fumes outdoors but just handling the stuff now seems to be a problem and of course there is always some fume residue lurking around.I have been using it for years but lately the symptoms seem to be getting more troublesome with even some skin reactions involved.Filters and masks don't work either.

I love my hobby but I don't want to croak because of it.

Is there a good substitute for ca ? something that sets up quickly but is not too toxic ?
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:59 AM UTC
You know this is actually a great little kit but it did test my patience at times.Most of the problems are with the instructions and the hard to read identification #'s of the parts on their sprues.In a kit of this size and complexity I wonder how many ever actually got finished.I know mine had been started years ago by someone else and I picked it up for the price of the postage.If the manufacturers had put a little more money into the actual kit and less in marketing a nice box ,it would have been money well spent.It makes me wonder how many potential modelers have lost their interest in building due to this problem.I know that if I hadn't of had lots of prior experience mine would probably be still in the box in the cupboard too.
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2011 - 01:51 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 01:16 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 02:00 AM UTC
I have been fooling around a bit with the camera trying to find interesting angles for future shots.This layout/diorama has a lot of possibilities for telling various stories about the old west.I would especially like to see how close I can come to re-creating scenes from the movie "Once upon a time in the west".I have the movie and I am able to review it frame by frame and thereby learn first hand how Sergio created some of his work.He had a wonderful eye for composition and detail and was a perfectionist in his work.I can feel his influence there with me whenever I am looking through the eye of the camera.
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 11:03 PM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 11:31 PM UTC
Sergio Leone was famous for framing his shots using doors and windows either from the outside looking in or like in this shot, the inside looking out.It is a great technique for compositional purposes and one that I use often in my own work.
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 11:22 PM UTC
I build this locomotive as a movie prop and I am now faced with making it
look more like one.I really over built one side and am now faced with removing some stuff in order to have it better fit in with the storyline.It is time to call in the guys with the blowtorches.
The original idea was that it was to be a half model made of tin on a wood frame and set up as it would be on a movie lot.
In many ways it is hard to do this to such a beautiful design but the story must come first in my view.I have another General kit waiting to be built anyway and of course I will always have the pics.
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Posted: Monday, October 31, 2011 - 01:07 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 10:30 PM UTC
The third part of my layout /diorama will be to build the luxury passenger car.(Morton's car in the movie) I plan to use finer hardwoods and leave in a few remnants of furniture and memorabilia from the era.It will be weathered as though it has sat in the backlot for some time.I will build it like a sound stage and probably not even put it on tracks except maybe near one of the car stairs where Claudia Cardinale first steps off the train to make her unforgettable grand entrance in the movie.This was the one and only Western movie ever written for a woman and I would like to recognize that fact in the diorama.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 08:45 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 09:23 AM UTC
In the opening scene the train is going in the other direction but I had to compromise a bit if I want to show the locomotives best (realistic) side.From this view all will look normal but from the other side it will all be movie set.The work that I am doing now on the mock up side of the locomotive will hardly be seen at all in the final version as it will be mostly in front of the station. In the area between the front of the locomotive and the front right hand side of the station will sit Sergio's empty directors chair with his name on the back.Morton's deluxe car in the back will be modified into another movie set somewhat like the station was but will look normal from this viewpoint.On the backside of the station wall I will put up a double sided screen of a view of Monument Valley that will be viewable from both the single front window of the station and Morton's car.Claudia's arrival set will be on the backside end of Morton's car.
I never like to put anything square to the base so the final setup will be at an angle yet to be determined.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 01:08 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 02:07 AM UTC
From this angle it will be all movie set.The unfinished Bachmann car will be gutted in the mid section.The last two windows and stairs will be retained as will the last 3-4 windows between the cars as that will be where the double sided Monument Valley screen will go.As I noted before the gutted locomotive will hardly even be seen at all but the tender will be another story.This is an abandoned lot so an old poster from the movie could go on the side and of course wood will be piled on top.
I prefer this staggered look rather than the round idea for a layout/diorama at this scale and yet it remains interesting for the viewer when viewed from any angle.The whole purpose of this layout/diorama is educational for kids to know how old movies were made before the modern era of animation etc...When finished I will probably offer it to a museum of science and technology for display purposes.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 02:50 AM UTC
The train sequence starts at 1:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW-jSa9_k3M