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vietnam dio - "saving comrades"
United States
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Posted: Monday, June 18, 2012 - 07:41 AM UTC
Hey folks,

This diorama idea came from several books on the Vietnam War that I've read over the last year or so. Most of the books were from the American side of things with several going into the Bright Light missions of rescuing downed pilots. So, the ground level of the piece is going to depict several LRRP's picking up a downed helicopter pilot.

The underground aspect came from Dang Thuy Tram's diary Last Night I Dreamed of Peace. She was a doctor for the VC that was ultimately killed
and her diary recovered by a US soldier. From a historical viewpoint, the diary is pretty interesting. Tram wrote about her feelings on the war, relationships that she had, and some medical circumstances (brief descriptions of her facilities and a few mentions of treatments). From a narrative viewpoint: although she was 27, her diary was like something I would expect from a teenage girl. My gosh she droned on and on and on about some guy that she had a crush on. bahhhhhhhhhh. LOL

Anyway, here's where I am so far. The 4x4 section is from some leftover lumber that I had out in the shed. Thought it was appropriate given the Vietnamese reputation for scavenging absolutely anything.

main hole is going to be the clinic and the smaller hole in the side is just a tunnel opening

doc and patient -I'll probably redo his hands or stick something in them. her arms are positioned to tie off his bandages.
the squatting guy is another soldier checking on his pal.

above ground:

Most likely I'm going to take away the machete and move his arm to help the pilot up out of the brush.

Open to input and suggestions.

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Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Monday, June 18, 2012 - 07:04 PM UTC
Very interesting project. Keep us posted.
Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Monday, June 18, 2012 - 10:06 PM UTC
Very interesting indeed.
Texas, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 11:16 AM UTC
I'm liking it already, I'm looking forward to seeing how you fit it all together.
United States
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Posted: Friday, June 22, 2012 - 08:02 AM UTC
Thanks folks. Made a bit of progress.

I used joint compound to smooth out the hospital walls and provide landscaping on top. Paint are tamiya acrylics with a blend of brown and a smidge of red in an attempt to get close to the red dirt of Vietnam.

--approximate positioning of LRRPs and helo pilot up top. I'm going to throw up a bunch of vegetation around the guys (it would be sort of stupid for my pilot to just sit out in the open like that haha).

--these two facing out are supposed to be keeping the trail covered. Carpet monster ate one guy's hat, so I've had to replace it and haven't painted it yet.

I kinda like having the hospital cavern run all the way through so that the viewer can spin the piece to see both ends of the room. I haven't decided yet, but I was thinking about placing a dim LED in the ceiling of the room, or maybe sticking it in a lantern. Without the flash of the camera, it is pretty dark in there. What do you folks think?

Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 02:40 PM UTC
Interesting idea. Looking forward to see more.
Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 03:26 AM UTC
If this is of any relevance to your concept, Master Box has a recent five figure set called 'Head for the Huey', with two of the figs helping a wounded buddy.
Florida, United States
Joined: September 22, 2012
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 04:32 AM UTC
Awesome dio! Like the multi-level concept. Almost 2 dios in 1.

As for the LED I would suggest something dull and yellow. Caves are darker than expected and light doesn't illuminate much. Might be a pain in the butt but you could partially create the effect of light with different colored paints (lighter brown directly in the light faded to black in the darkness)? Just a thought.

Excited to see this complete. Keep posting updates
Florida, United States
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Posted: Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 02:42 AM UTC
Interesting concept and doing real good so far! I'll be following your progress.
Texas, United States
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Posted: Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 02:32 PM UTC
Interesting work up can't wait to see it finished. Looks good so far
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Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 04:03 PM UTC
a very interesting concept indeed, usually american modellers don't build the sort of scenario you are attempting, so i applaud your choice of diorama.

as for the book, i have also read it and found it very interesting coming from the north Vietnamese view point
England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 10:22 AM UTC
While it's an interesting idea for the dio I don't understand your painting of the figures. I don't wish to appear rude but it just looks like you've just dipped them in a pot of green paint and slapped some black on. If you google ERDL and tigerstripe there are 100's of colour photographs of both types of camouflage for reference and I'm pretty sure I've seen a couple of tutorials on how to paint both cam patterns. While both patterns are quite challenging to get right it's quite gratifying to have a go and get it about semi-right rather than just make no effort at all. I'm sure other's have thought the same but have avoided the figures to spare your feelings. Critique and encouragement are vital to learning. My advice would be stick the figures in a plastic bag, cover them in Mr Muscle to take the paint off and start again. Sorry.
Serbia & Montenegro
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 - 11:55 PM UTC
Your idea is great.
But you painting need to improve.
Go easy and dont rush.
With a little patience and practice result be very good.
Dont be disapointed with my reply.
My first figures was like little children painting.
United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, August 03, 2015 - 03:00 PM UTC
Hi John. Your idea is great but I noticed the enamel paints etc in your photos. Something that may help your painting is throwing them away try using vallejo type acrylics and sable brushes for example along with lots of practice and watching others should help a lot. Keep painting!