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To paint or not to paint metal armor
Biggles2
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 - 05:43 AM UTC
In the case of metal figures I figure 'what's the point of painting metal armor to make it look like metal armor?'. I mean, it's a metal figure already. Just polish the armor parts with steel wool and apply a black oil pin wash. But then you have to mask off the armor areas to prime the painting areas - not always very easy. I would usually 'prime' the painting areas with brush applied white acrylic paint. Accurate but not too effective. Is there another technique, or do most painters just prime the entire figure and paint the armor to make it look metal again? Opinions??
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 - 03:42 PM UTC
What do you do if you have to use putty? Thats why I prefer to paint.

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Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 05:43 AM UTC
I only buy good quality figures that don't require puttying. Can be expensive, though.
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 07:59 AM UTC

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I only buy good quality figures that don't require puttying. Can be expensive, though.



If not imagenary?

However I do usually find that metaligures often requires more putty than resinfigures.

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Biggles2
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 05:57 AM UTC
I like Pegaso/Romeo figures for medieval and ancients. They fit really good, and the parts break is usually at a belt point, a clothing crease, or between armor and clothing, so if occasional filling is needed, it is easily painted over. I agree about resin figs, though. For some reason fits are generally better, and the figures can be cast with fewer pieces.
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 07:47 AM UTC
Disclaimer: I don't do any figures like this...


Could you prime the whole thing and then use steel wool/thinner to strip the primer from the metal armor bits?
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 - 10:54 AM UTC
I do admint that recent years have shown more delicate and clever breakdown of parts and joints among the major makers. As well in metal as resin.

Could it be an option to use Vallejo primer with a brush.

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Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 04:44 AM UTC

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Could you prime the whole thing and then use steel wool/thinner to strip the primer from the metal armor bits?


It's more work than it seems. Most spray primers seem to be lacquer and are VERY difficult to remove selectively. You could scrub for hours with steel wool and have a nice shiny surface, but there would still be primer in the nooks and crannies. And then there is the problem of softening any nice sharp details with the abrasive steel wool. Brush painting with Valejo is something I have not considered, and should try.
alanpaul
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 03:45 AM UTC
I would prepare the figure and polish any armour with 0000 wire wool and wadding silver polish (Duraglit in the UK). Then mask the edges of the armour with Blu-tack and fill in the rest with a liquid mask. Then Tamiya fine spray primer, get the masks off and immediately paint the bare metal with clear acrylic, coloured or otherwise. I think its important to do the clear acrylic quite quickly to avoid oxidation and to keep the high polish. Resin figures I would prime and then metalise with Alclad Lacquer:



The problem of course is that it takes forever!...still not finished!

Alan
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 03:47 AM UTC
Could someone remind me how to get a photo to appear?

Sorry and thanks,

Alan
JackG
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 09:00 PM UTC
Haven't built any metal figures lately, but the few that I have done I just left the metal exposed, polished and added a dark wash if required.



Some modelers also abstain from metal paints, using flat colours to give the look of metal.

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Jack
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2014 - 05:29 AM UTC
Looks good Jack. Did you use decals for the surcoat design? Did you brush paint primer on colored painted areas?
JackG
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2014 - 07:19 AM UTC
Thanks!

No primer, just white acrylic paint sprayed on after masking off the necessary parts. The ermine pattern are all individual decals, home made on clear film.

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Jack
Biggles2
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - 03:25 AM UTC
I just noticed; he's got a misericord and sword scabbard, but no belt. How are they suspended - anti-grav units?
JackG
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 - 08:01 AM UTC
Just the angle of the photo makes it appear that way. The belt is underneath the shirt, which is split at the sides.



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Jack