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Tank Crewman. Steampunk Bust
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 10:30 PM UTC
I'll go into the sordid world of SteamPunk, I started with this guy that came up on the fly, comic style not very realistic indeed. Iīm going to give him an Italian helmet of tank crewman of the 30s, but with some retouching Art-Deco. Well, we'll see how it evolves. Hope you like









nico37
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 01:40 AM UTC
Hi,

this one is well begining too, i will also look forward.

nico
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 10:10 AM UTC
Merci Nico

I almost finished him, I expect to show you a.s.a.p.
Iīm puzzling over the things to add him to give it the steampunk touch.

PeeDee
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 10:59 AM UTC
How dreadfully disappointing,

I opened up the topic to see something imspiring to learn from only to find an Easter island statue with an eyeglass.

I genuinely feel that is all you have done, a sculpt of bronze age standard with modern materials.

I have never, in 40years of modelling said something harsh about someone else's models, because we should be supportive of each other and find something to praise.

In this case I am shocked not to find a redeeming feature and it saddens me.
hofpig
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 01:14 AM UTC
Fernando,

I'd ignore those comments if I was you. I was going to launch into a retort be I feel that lowering myself to his level to be far beneath me. I like it, reminds me of an artist called Sergio Aragonés, an artist of very fine comic illustations.

Paul
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 01:54 AM UTC
Hi Paul (referring to "hopfig" of course)

Itīs curious but, being spanish, I only know the Grooīs Stories.
Really I am improvising, I take to modelize the few moments I have along the day, and these "cartoon" sculptures are for me a good practice to learn.

I will try to show you this evening the progress of this "modelist abomination".

I hope you like (to everyone less one, indeed)
hofpig
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 02:35 AM UTC
I am sure I will Fernando, I can't wait.

Paul
hofpig
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 02:44 AM UTC
Oops forgot this bit. I never read a single Groo but I did read Sergio Argonnes stomps star wars back in the late 90's, very good but a bit rare these days! Very much in the style of your busts. I just wish I could sculpt anything!

Paul
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 07:23 PM UTC
I'm going to search those Sergio's comics, there is an old comic books shop in my city, I always find little treasures.
I started to scuplt a few years ago when I discovered the green stuff. Is certain that is not easy at the beginning but step by step...
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 07:25 PM UTC
Definitely not know what the hell I'm doing, if a steampunk tank crew, a statue of Easter Island (as it has defined by one of my fans) with helmet, a militarized rastaman or something else indefinable. Well, let each one decide that this character is, the important is that I'm really enjoying doing it.

Let's see what we have done to my poor little monster. We've put his uniform and we have added his helmet, that although you may not believe are, more or less, faithful to the original dressed by Italian tank crews until WW2. With the helmet I have taken some liberties and I've added a Art Nouveau style decor.

As finally he has a major head, and letīs say slightly disproportionate, I added him a mane. A crude attempt to compensate the size of the head. Anyway ... I've put him, as part of the helmet, a strap that will be the base of a modernist pileup, with wheels and vintage bulbs that I īm going to make in "Green Stuff".

And thatīs all by the moment.











nico37
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 08:42 PM UTC
Hi,

good job Fernando, me gusto su trabajo , i don't know the comics you talked about but this bust makes me think about some caricaturas i saw here and there.

And it could be a steampunk rasta man who was born in the Easter Island, who knows what kind of tank crew men are recruited in the steampunk universe !


Cheers
nico
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2014 - 09:32 AM UTC
Merovingians! I forgot to check the temperature control before the last baked and needless to say it was well over 120šC, so now I have a little toasted Steampunk. So bye-bye Sculpey and welcome green stuff. It's finished, except to add it a little wheel or two. I will make copies and add some old bulbs, not reals you know. So it has been the poor guy.





hofpig
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Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2014 - 09:08 PM UTC
Fernando,

That looks great nice to see all the different stages of work so we can see how you did it!

Paul
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2014 - 09:32 PM UTC

Quoted Text


That looks great nice to see all the different stages of work so we can see how you did it!



Thanks Paul

As I learnt watching "Sesame Street" : "Shared work is funniest"

Fer
Hwa-Rang
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Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2014 - 10:26 PM UTC
Love the subject. Very very well executed Fernando.
nico37
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 12:43 AM UTC
Really good result Fernando, you well managed the green-stuff...I hate green stuff, it always glues on my hand instead on the fig i'm working on !!! Do you have any secret to work with it ?

And the to long cooked clay doesn't really matter cause i don't see any crack on your bust.

cheers
nico
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 05:26 AM UTC

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Love the subject. Very very well executed Fernando.



Thanks Jesper although it is very well toasted
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 06:03 AM UTC

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Really good result Fernando, you well managed the green-stuff...I hate green stuff, it always glues on my hand instead on the fig i'm working on !!! Do you have any secret to work with it ?



Secret! Donīt know to say. Itīs true that green stuff is too much sticky, specially if you work with metal tools and itīs quite enervating.

Um!! There is two or three things you can try:

a- First is to mix green stuff with other epoxi putty, like Magic Sculpt or Milliput, variating proportions of both putties you can get differents putties with different textures.

b- Second is use rubber brushes for modelling, are wonderful tools to sculpt in my opinion.



It is much more difficult than the green stuff sticking to them. You can push and make pression to stick it on the figure without fear(or less fear) to it remains stuck to the tool.

I found my first rubber brushes in France precisely. "Je dois aller en France pour travailler de temps en temps". Also are useful to smooth the surface at the same time you sculpt.

c- If you use metal tools like these...



you need to moisten the points with water, neither much nor little (itīs a question of practice) to avoid the adherence and after with little and rapid touches start to stick the green stuff to the rest of the figure, all around the portion, or at least enough, you want to add. When you are sure that it is firm over the surface you can sculpt on it...more or less...thatīs not a exact science

I hope this can help you, if not, don't hesitate to comment.

A bientôt et bon courage.
Fer
nico37
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 07:25 PM UTC
Hi,

thanks a lot fernando for your answer.

I already get some rubber brushes but only the white ones, the softer don't they ? I need to find the black, the firmer ?
I did not knew that green-stuff could be mixed with magic sculpt, i get both so i will make a try, and i did not used water either, so i'll do. Thanks for the ideas !

Cheers
nico
Rauko_Din
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 08:22 PM UTC
I learned a lot reading the tips that people give generously so I think it's fair to return them to the network.

Concerning brushes, I recommend the grey one, is an intermediate between the soft (that is too soft) and the firm (that is too firm), but the firm is useful sometimes when you need to do a deeper split because the grey brush can bend itself. But if you should choose between both brushes, take the grey. You can find them from number 0. I have used 0 and 2, the 0 is useful for small figures, but for the bigger, like bust or something, I prefer number 2.

About mix putties, it depends of the proportions of one or other you can get different putties, make the prove with small quantities and changing those proportions (fifty-fifty, more green stuff or more milliput- magic sculpt).

With water be careful because if you put too much water maybe the green stuff doesn't stick on the rest of putty.


Maybe you can find something useful here, I started a kind of tutorial, a nonsense because I'm not an expert, but itīs my experience with sculpting:

proyectosabsurdos