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Tamiya: M109A6 Paladin
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ARMORAMA
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 01:39 AM UTC


Steven Eldridge takes a look at the M109A6 Paladin SPG from Tamiya in 1/35th scale.

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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 01:47 AM UTC
There is quite a few significant inaccuracies in the kit caused by the fact that Italeri (and Tamiya) used hull from old early M109 kit...

And tracks are wrong type for Paladin.

Extra Tamiya sprue comes from their M2A2 ODS Bradley kit.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 02:40 AM UTC
Yup, lots of issues w/the old Italeri come Tamiya kit. We discussed them in depth at this recent thread about this kit.

Bottom line; get the AFV Club Paladin instead. It is light-years ahead of this one. The extra gear and figures are not worth the hassle.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 05:08 AM UTC
Yep, certainly not the most accurate kit, but with this kit going for almost half the price of AFVs and with a much easier build this kit looks great for the casual modeler.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 05:23 AM UTC
It depends on what you are looking for.

If you want something that looks like an M109A6 Paladin, but is full of inaccuracies (flotation collar and bolts, wrong track, missing panels, soft details, etc., etc...), and has fit issues; get the Italeri/Tamiya kit.

If you want a very accurate and extremely detailed M109A6 Paladin model out of the box; get the AFV Club kit.

As the old adadge goes, "You get what you pay for."
DrChopp
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - 05:59 AM UTC

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It depends on what you are looking for.

If you want something that looks like an M109A6 Paladin, but is full of inaccuracies (flotation collar and bolts, wrong track, missing panels, soft details, etc., etc...), and has fit issues; get the Italeri/Tamiya kit.

If you want a very accurate and extremely detailed M109A6 Paladin model out of the box; get the AFV Club kit.

As the old adadge goes, "You get what you pay for."



Agreed, you certainly do get what you pay for!
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 10:45 AM UTC

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Steven Eldridge takes a look at the M109A6 Paladin SPG from Tamiya in 1/35th scale.

Read the Review

If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!



Speaking for myself, I generally stay away from kits that have been re-boxed by other companies, mostly because of prior experience with the original kits. Speaking from experience, I'm not going to shell out good money for a bad kit that I've had the dubious pleasure to build before, just because it's been re-packaged in a pretty, new box...

Of course, there ARE exceptions; these being kits which I KNOW FOR CERTAIN, were "winners" in their original form.

If any aircraft modelers are reading this post of mine, you'll know what I'm talking about- Great examples are the re-boxings of quite a few of the now defunct ACCURATE MINIATURES kits that have been re-boxed by ACADEMY, ITALERI and TAMIYA. Great examples are the ACCURATE MINIATURES (ALL in 1/48 scale), B-25B, C, D, and G-series kits, the TBF/TBM-1 thru -3 Avenger-series, SBD-1 thru -5 Dauntless-series, the Il.2 Sturmovik-series, Grumman F3F-1 and -2 Biplanes, and their early Allison-Engined P-51/P-51A/A-36A Dive Bomber/F-6A Photo-Recon and RAF Mustang Mk.IA kits. Going back quite a few years ago, we had the ACCURATE SB2C-1 thru -4 Helldiver kits, which MONOGRAM also sold in their "PRO-MODELER" aircraft kit line-up. ACADEMY will be re-marketing a couple of the ACCURATE MINIATURES SBD Dauntless kits for 2019/2020, (I believe an SBD-3 and an SBD-5), along with a first-time-in-a-re-box ACCURATE MINIATURES SB2U-3 "Battle of Midway" Vindicator. This is welcome news for those aircraft modelers who missed out on buying the ACCURATE Vindicators the first time around.

A while back, ACCURATE MINIATURES marketed the DML/DRAGON 1/48 Focke-Wulf Fw.190A-8, and a couple of EDUARD P-39/P-400s, PLUS the SPECIAL HOBBY 1/48 F2G Corsair. I have at least 2-3 of EACH of ALL of the aforementioned models in my aircraft collection, EXCEPT for the re-boxed DML/DRAGON Fw.190A-8! THAT ONE was a REAL BATTLE in getting the juncture of the Engine/Gun Cowling/Fuselage portion of this kit to mate-up properly with the Wing Root when I built the original kit, so with that lousy experience behind me, I naturally stayed FAR AWAY from the ACCURATE MINIATURES re-boxing. HASEGAWA's, TAMIYA's and EDUARD's 1/48 Fw.190s are much better, with the LATEST EDUARD Fw.190s being the best of the lot. The earlier boxings of the EDUARD 190s had fit-issues in the Engine/Gun Cowling area, but nowhere near as bad as the old DML/DRAGON kits were. EDUARD has since fixed these vexing issues..

TAMIYA has re-boxed some of the other BETTER ITALERI and HASEGAWA kits in the past with some success, notably ITALERI's 1/48 Arado Ar.196A Float Plane, and their Reggiane Re-2000. TAMIYA also did well with their re-boxing of HASEGAWA's 1/48 Hurricane Mk.I. Likewise, ITALERI has done a couple of the ACCURATE 1/48 SBD Dauntlesses and a couple of HASEGAWA's 1/48 Spitfires, I believe the Mk.VIII and Mk.IX. As for myself, being a fuss-budget, I waited for the 1/48 EDUARD Spitfire Mk.V thru Mk.IX kits, because they were a VAST improvement over the HASEGAWA Spitfires. Shape and dimension issues with the HASEGAWA Spitfires..

Now as to TAMIYA re-boxing ITALERI 1/35 ARMOR, I'm not too crazy about that idea: the ITALERI 1/35 M24 Chaffee was marginal at best- I did an EXTENSIVE conversion of the ITALERI M24, using the now-defunct FORMATIONS M24 Conversion kit, which included a completely new Upper Hull, a new Turret, new Wheels and a myriad of other brand new parts. I used Friul WWII-style Chaffee "Steel" Tracks, a boatload of PE and a bunch of other resin bits and pieces to turn an old mutt-dog of a kit into a contest-worthy specimen. However, I don't go to contests and shows any more, so this particular M24 of mine resides happily in one of my display cases, parked right next to my BRONCO M24, which for me, was a much happier building experience...

I think that TAMIYA could have done better for themselves with an M24 that came "home-made" right from their own factory instead of marketing a re-boxing of the old ITALERI kit. Ditto, the ITALERI T17 A/C kits- I remember that the ITALERI T17s came out at just about the same time as BRONCO came out with theirs. I read the reviews, and I weighed the pros and cons of each kit. I bought the BRONCO T17s. TAMIYA's re-boxing of the ITALERI Crusader Mk.III probably met with better success than the M24, but not with me, because I already had the original ITALERI Mk.I and Mk.III Crusader kits in my collection.

So that's about it with THIS particular rant of mine. Thanks for reading...
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 11:14 AM UTC

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Yup, lots of issues w/the old Italeri come Tamiya kit. We discussed them in depth at this recent thread about this kit.

Bottom line; get the AFV Club Paladin instead. It is light-years ahead of this one. The extra gear and figures are not worth the hassle.



I would much rather wait and save up the extra few bucks in order to buy a better kit which happens to cost nearly twice as much as a "dog" of the same subject...

But that's just me...

What Gino and Steven said certainly applies to the different KINDS of modelers out there; there are the people who are satisfied with something that more or less RESEMBLES the particular subject that they are interested in, and then there are the "crazies" such as myself, who will settle for nothing less than a MINIATURE of the REAL THING...

And then, you have the people that are in-between the two aforementioned categories... (shrug)