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5 o'clock shadow w/pastels
mongo_mel
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 04:54 AM UTC
There was a topic here about painting eyes that evolved into doing 5 o'clock shadows with pastels. I thought I would post a picture of an old 120mm Verlinden figure I did years ago using this method. I brushed on the shadow using dark blue pastel with a little black mixed in. I still like the effect it gives.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 06:15 AM UTC
Great effect Mongo will it work in 1/35th :-)
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 06:23 AM UTC
I've never tried it on anything smaller but I don't see why not.
It will take a very small brush. A warning, the pastels can be rough on the bristles. Don't use your best, most expensive brush.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:12 AM UTC
I've tried it with 1/35 scale. It's not easy, even with a fine brush, because the pastel dust is hard to control. That dark stuff doesn't come off either, so you must be careful.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 08:39 AM UTC
How about using a swab like a Q-Tip?
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 11:35 AM UTC
I think the Q-Tip would be too big to use on 1/35th scale faces. How about cutting down an old paint brush? Something like a 3/0 or smaller (one where the point is shot). That might work.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 04:07 PM UTC
What brand of pastels to you use for your 5 o'clock shadows?
would it be a good idea to use a paynes gray pastel ?
Cheers
Roc.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 06:43 PM UTC
I've tried to make 5 o'clock in 1/35 with a controlled wash (filter)... Very light dark wash applied to the beard growth areas. It can give good results, but carefull not to overdo it; it is better to repeat the procedure than to give one heavy wash that could spoil the fig.

Mario M.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 06:54 PM UTC
I just tried painting a face with oils and added pastels on wet oil paint. It blends beautifully! I used it to create some blackish powder marks but it will also work for 5 o´clock shadow...
I would use blueish gray mixed with black.


And here´s another case, this time with oils. I used a mix of burnt umber and dark gray for this subtle effect. I think the pastels work better, though!





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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 12:02 AM UTC
Hi Roc,
Sorry, but for me, I have no idea what brand my pastels are. They're whatever was available at my local art store.
I believe that I did use Paynes Grey for my 5 o'clock shadow. It's a nice blue/grey color.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 01:10 AM UTC
If you want to make beard, I think that the best way is with oils.

1. Use Raw Umber at beard postion, use a flat pencil to remove unnecessary paint.
2. Wait for 45 min
3. Blend with Titanum / Zinkwhite.

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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 08:52 AM UTC
Hi Craig,
Thanks for responding. Another method that I've been using successfully is applying Paynes grey oil paint in the beard areas after painting the face and while the flesh colors are still wet, using white to highlight the high points.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 08:52 AM UTC
Hi Craig,
Thanks for responding. Another method that I've been using successfully is applying Paynes grey oil paint in the beard areas after painting the face and while the flesh colors are still wet, using white to highlight the high points.
Roc.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 08:53 AM UTC
Hi Craig,
Thanks for responding. Another method that I've been using successfully is applying Paynes grey oil paint in the beard areas after painting the face and while the flesh colors are still wet, using white to highlight the high points.
Roc.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 08:53 AM UTC
Hi Craig,
Thanks for responding. Another method that I've been using successfully is applying Paynes grey oil paint in the beard areas after painting the face and while the flesh colors are still wet, using white to highlight the high points.
Roc.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 08:56 AM UTC
Hi Craig,
Thanks for responding. Another method that I've been using successfully is applying Paynes grey oil paint in the beard areas after painting the face and while the flesh colors are still wet, using white to highlight the high points.
Roc.
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 10:18 AM UTC
I think you had some trouble with the submit reply button Roc! :-)

Anyway, I have had success using Payne's Grey Oil blended into the jawline for the unshaven look. I don't know how well pastels will work, but I'll have to give that a try, they work for everything else!

Cheers
Andy
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 11:00 AM UTC
Hi Andy,
My apologies to all for the duplicate postings, you are right I did have trouble with the submit button.
I personally have used pastels for weathering figures but never for a 5 O'clock shadow.
This technique is very interesting and certainly worth trying.
Happy painting,
Roc.