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Wizards, ogres, hobbits, elves, orcs....
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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 10:05 AM UTC
Following a recent tread on wargaming figs, I decided to put on a new topic to ask where I could find some nice figures of various fictional/fantasy subjects? I would be interested in larger (close to 1/35 or bigger) figures of wizards, elves, hobbits and creatures like dragons, ogres and orcs...

Anybody?

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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 10:41 AM UTC
Well, back in the Dungeons and Dragons days, Ral Partha, Grenadier, Citadel, and several others made Dand D figures, while most are out of production, I'm sure a peek on E-bay or any of the other auction sites would turn up loads of matches.

Warhammer is still somewhat popular, so there are still figs for that, but some are armed with guns..

The LOTR movies ought to bring that stuff back out of the woodwork too

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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:28 AM UTC
I've seen lots of LOTR figures. The question is, what manufacturers, if any, have the best quality product.

I hope to get to one of the shops in town and see what they have. There is one near work...

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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 10:32 AM UTC

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I've seen lots of LOTR figures. The question is, what manufacturers, if any, have the best quality product?


I'll second Andy's question. :-)
Having been amazed by the movie and book, The Fellowship of the Ring, I have an urge to do a figure from the series. Gandalf, Aragorn, Boromir, Legolas, Gimli, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Saruman, and of course the orcs and Uruk-hai!!!
Maybe I wouldn't build all of them, but it'd be a heckuva dio!!! :-) :-) :-) (please help me, I'm going insane!!! #:-) )

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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:34 PM UTC
I wonder if we are all asking each other the same thing, and there are no wargame/D&D afficianados here to help us!!

Is there a site like TL or Armorama for gamers?

Just wondering!

By the way, I found that Shaman figure I have. I'd mentioned it in the previous thread regarding my wizard that started us off here!! It's a "Weird West Miniature" in the "Deadlands" series from Pinnacle Entertainment Group. Made in the US, and lead free. There's a mailing address. If anyone wants it, let me know!

The figure is of a Shaman in buckskins, musket over shoulder, holding some kind of staff and pointing off to his left. There are some seams to clean up, but it's a very nice figure. Excellent detail.


Andy
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 03:44 AM UTC

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It's a "Weird West Miniature" in the "Deadlands" series from Pinnacle Entertainment Group. Made in the US, and lead free. There's a mailing address. If anyone wants it, let me know!



I guess they don't have a website? Is it e-mailing address or regular mail address?

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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 04:07 AM UTC
Snail mail only.

From the response I'm getting, I'll post the address after I get home.

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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 05:02 AM UTC
There are model shops here in Antwerp that sell nothing but such wargaming/fantasy figures. A choice of many hundreds. Mostly they are in metal (tin?) and quite small, I'd guess somewhere between 1/72 and 1/48. There's several manufacturers, most are British. On Saturday, I can go and have a look to find more info about these companies and see if they have a website.
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:15 AM UTC
I've built hundreds of fantasy figures, both for gaming and as collection pieces for myself and friends. The very best, ead and shoulders above the rest, were Mithril Minatures (www.mithril.ie). They do, or did, at least, a 54mm range of Lord of the Rings figures. I have to stress I never did any of their larger stuff, but if it was anything like the 25/30mm it would be worth a second look.

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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 08:34 AM UTC

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The very best, ead and shoulders above the rest, were Mithril Minatures (www.mithril.ie). They do, or did, at least, a 54mm range of Lord of the Rings figures.



Welcome to the Armorama Mitch... and thanks for the link. I'm off to see it more closely right now.



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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:37 AM UTC
Hi guys.

Well, I visited the local wargame shop earlier today.

'Authorized' LOTR miniatures are made by two companies:
Mithril Designs (as already mentioned above) and Games Workshop (http://www.games-workshop.com/lotr/)

There are TONS of figures. Mithril Designs are Prince August figures. They look nice, but many of the boxes are not bubble packs, so the contents are mysterious! The Games Workshop figures are smaller, more like 25mm or 20mm, but very nice looking.

There were also about 30 Billion other figures in the shop I visited. Bags of 15mm Old Glory figures (nice detail) where you get 20 - 40 figures in a bag for Napoleonic, Samurai, ACW or other period games. There are oodles of alien/fantasy/space figures too.

Little in the way of web sites advertised, but I still think it's necessary to see these in the flesh before deciding on figures for painting. I look for somewhat proportianate figures, although heads, hands and feet always tend to be oversized.

Those space marines look kind of cool...

Cheers
Andy
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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:31 AM UTC

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'Authorized' LOTR miniatures are made by two companies:
Mithril Designs (as already mentioned above) and Games Workshop (http://www.games-workshop.com/lotr/)



Thanks for the input Andy... The Games Workshop has some great looking figures. Look at this Balrog:



You have said they are something about 20-25mm.. Is this around 1/15? Do you think of getting some of them? A review of some GW figures from the first hand would really come in handy...

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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:37 AM UTC
I found a bunch of Star Wars figurines in about 1/48-1/35 scale while stationed in NJ. I still have a couple of the blister packs; a land speeder with crew and a Bantha(?) with Tusken Raider riders. Nicely done. My wife has a semi-collection of female type warriors that she details and paints. Much better than I am at figurines.

BTW, does anyone know of the best way to glue these guys together? Seems like super glue never holds for very long.
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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:50 AM UTC

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I still have a couple of the blister packs;



I've heard of blister packs before, but I don't know what does it mean?


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BTW, does anyone know of the best way to glue these guys together? Seems like super glue never holds for very long.



I presumed they are metal figs. Am I wrong?

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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:55 AM UTC
Blister packs are the type of packaging that has a clear plastic "blister" formed over the product and is glued to a cardboard backing. Action figures usually come on blister packs.

And yes, the figurines are white metal.
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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:59 AM UTC

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And yes, the figurines are white metal.



OK, then I would suggest using super glue. If you need to strenghten this bond even more I'd use a thin layer of putty together with the glue.

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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:51 PM UTC
Any prep required to the metal? I figure I need to wash it down with some alcohol to make sure the oils are off after cleaning up the parts.
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Posted: Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:53 PM UTC

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Any prep required to the metal? I figure I need to wash it down with some alcohol to make sure the oils are off after cleaning up the parts.



Usuall wash procedure for metal figures is with a dilution of vinager. This helps to remove the grease and prevents the "lead desease". After that just prime the figure and it is ready to go...

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Posted: Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 04:21 AM UTC

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BTW, does anyone know of the best way to glue these guys together? Seems like super glue never holds for very long



Hi Sabot,
Maki is giving good advice. I have a couple of things to add.

I've heard you can add some baking soda to the superglue once on the joint, and that strengthens the bond.

Superglue is great for holding against direct force, but is very brittle for any twisting motion. Epoxy will do the job if you want a stronger joint, but is more 'fussy' to handle in the drying process.

You can use milliput as a glue too. It works pretty well.

There were TONS of Star Wars figures at this shop too. They were mostly from Episodes 4 - 6 and some elaborations of those. The figures were between 1/72 and 1/48 scale roughly.

I'd say the LOTR figures I saw were close to 1/72 scale (that is the GW ones). The Mithril (Prince August) figures were bigger, but not quite 1/48 scale.


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A review of some GW figures from the first hand would really come in handy...


And I have a lot of figures on the go right now, and in the closet, so I'll have to see what I can get as gifts for later review!!

Cheers
Andy
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Posted: Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 07:36 AM UTC

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And I have a lot of figures on the go right now, and in the closet, so I'll have to see what I can get as gifts for later review!!



How do you mean "as gifts"? Is it like this: GM sends you a sample, you build it and paint, and then write a review for them?

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I've been trying to track down large (54mm+, but preferably 90-200mm) fantasy figures, mainly due to the fact there are a couple of paintings and sketches that I would like to model, mostly of Elves.

To answer some questions:


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I've heard of blister packs before, but I don't know what does it mean?


Blister packs are things with carboard background and a clear plastic front, similar to how batteries come in.


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You have said they are something about 20-25mm.. Is this around 1/15?


Nope. Whilst mm do not equate directly to scales, a human figure of 54mm is around 1/35. Hence, 1/15 scale has figures of around 120mm, but 20mm is 1/90 and 25 is 1/72.

Most of the wargaming figures are 20mm, I have been unsucessful in tracking down the larger figures. I cannot use prepainted ones, for I need to convert them, so I haven't concentrated on looking at those. What I have found though are a range of LOTR figures and some random cinema kits.

For the later, try Aries Cinema Model Kits Australia where they have a range of sci-fi and fantasy kits, including:

1/15 Darth Maul


1/6 Orc Bust


1/9 Anakin Skywalker


There is also a whole bunch of other movie and military figures.

For LOTR specifically, there is a New Zealand company, Weta Workshop, that did some of the special effects for LOTR and offer 1/6 figures and 1/4 helms. HobbyOne is the only place I know of the stocks them.

For figures, there are:

255mm Orc Overseer


265mm Orc Pitmaster


213mm Orc Warrior


Plus maybe some more.

Cheers,
Linz
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Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 12:05 AM UTC

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...figure of 54mm is around 1/35. Hence, 1/15 scale has figures of around 120mm, but 20mm is 1/90 and 25 is 1/72...



My mistake.. I was regarding of smaller scale and typed smaller number without thinking(1/15 instead of 1/72).. #:-)

Thanks for the links and pics. Those Orcs look really good... If there are some larger scale Wizards or Elves it would be even better. I'm off to browse for some more figs..

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Maki! You mentioned "lead disease" earlier. I have a lot of figs from a mispent youth, a lot in boxes. I noticed a condition where some were corroding, as if the metal was bubbling up. I've never found an explanation or cure for it. Is this the same thing as lead disease? Does it only affect older,lead pieces? Is vinegar the answer? I know a lot who like Hobbits with vinegar. #:-) Seriously, though, is this the answer to my mystery? Thanks,JOCK
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Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 12:36 AM UTC

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Maki! You mentioned "lead disease" earlier. I have a lot of figs from a mispent youth, a lot in boxes. I noticed a condition where some were corroding, as if the metal was bubbling up. I've never found an explanation or cure for it. Is this the same thing as lead disease?



Jock, I heard about lead disease from Shep Paine's book; never seen the darned thing with my own eyes... It affects metal figures that have large amount of lead in the casting. The symptoms are: a white powdery bloom that comes out trough the paint often on figs that have been "healthy" for years; it is contageous ( #:-) ) and can jump from one figure to the next... So, be carefull of the outbreak!!! Quarantine the diseased figures from the healthy ones and do a cleanup like this: scrape the affected areas clean, re-prime and repaint. Yes, I know this sounds like a bad episode of ER or Chicago Hope... :-)

Most todays figs are made of better alloys and are unlikely to develop the "lead condition". Just in case, wash metal figs in vinager and prime them before painting; priming separates the metal casting from the paint and prevents bad reaction between them.

Hope this helps,
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Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 05:00 AM UTC
Hey Maki

So far my wife and sister-in-law provide gifts of kits.
Nobody has sent me a kit or figure for review yet!

I tend to be suspicious of reviews of kits 'kindly provided' to the reviewer. There are many good reviewers out there, but as discussed on TL a while back (and what got me banned from ML), it's clear the vast majority of ML reviews are just descriptions of freebies provided to the Webmaster there. I like to see 'this was a freebie' clearly marked on any review I see. I'd be happy to have something sent to me, but it would be interesting to write about if it was crap!

Nice looking figures Linz. Those big LOTR figures are something! I bet they cost a pretty penny too!

Cheers
Andy