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thewrongguy
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Posted: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 08:09 AM UTC
I was walking by a games workshop place the other day and a few guys were playing out a warhammer game. It actually looked kind of interesting. If nothing else, one of the players had figures that were painted amazingly. Has anyone played this game? If I had to play a wargame I think I'd prefer WW1 or WW2 but it might be all right anyways

Thanks

Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 08:45 AM UTC
Warhammer is my main focus. I'm just "here" because I've been moving my armored company to more realistic painting. Any questions, just toss them my way. I'll give you a few quick points which may/may not pique your interest further

While set in the future, many of the models/rules for Warhammer 40,000 have some basis in historic/modern military. (For example, the Imperial Guard (who are most like WWII soldiers) have the concept of a Commissar - a theological officer who "motivates" the Emporer's soldiers to do their duty. Sometimes emphasized with a bullet.)

The game play is quick paced, each turn being split into phases for each opponent. Opponent A moves, shoots, assualts (close - combat), resolution. Opponent B then does the same phases. The resolution phase is where a player deals with the effects of broken morale, reinforcements, etc.

There is a fair number of servicemen/women who play Warhammer 40k. There is an army for everyone, including a large number of tanks and AFVs for those who choose to play Imperial Guard armies.

The models produced by Games Workshop are multi-part plastic and/or white metal (pewter). Warhammer is more of a hobby, not just a game. There are some people who just paint/model without every playing.

Like I said, just toss questions in my direction.
mkctanker
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Posted: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 02:04 PM UTC
Warhammer came about years ago when dungeons and dragons was hot, it was only a short step from roleplaying to wargaming. I got into it pretty deep, raising a large army of dwarfs and elfs. When the original Warhammer game came out several of my friends and I played two or three times a month. I got out of it mainly because the rules were not well defined and we spent most of the time argueing . Plus the cost of the army was getting out of hand. I still paint afew things for friend for some cash once in a while and just recently started playing again once a month because the rules have been perfected but I do not buy only use their stuff to play. I tis a great game and there are alot more games out there just as good but I save my money for kits. If it looks good to you by all means try it but be forwarned it is just as habit forming as modeling.

good luck
mkctanker
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Posted: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 07:18 PM UTC
Now for all you Warhammers, what is the scale of the figures you buy? Is there anything like 1/35? I'd like to paint some elves or wizards, but I'd like them to be in larger scale than 20mm... I know about GW and Mithril figures, is there anything else?

Mario M.
yellobelli
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:47 AM UTC
The GW stuff is approximately 28mm. There are several manufacturers who make similar sized minis: Reaper, FASA, Rackham etc. Rackham's new minis for their game Confrontation are fantastically sculpted, but still in a similar scale. There are a few companies doing stuff in 54mm (Games Workshop's Inquisitor Line and Cell come to mind), but they are mostly scifi based as opposed to fantasy.

If you're just looking for good kits to build, look at the Forgeworld stuff. They have several fantastic pieces (busts, large scale space ships, large scale figures etc.). They tend to be a bit on the high price side since the kits are hand made resin. However, they are worth it as this 11" model of a Chaos Space Marine shows.
yellobelli
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 01:54 AM UTC
Oops...forgot to mention that you can find most all of the mini manufacturers at New Wave. They carry pretty much every mini manufacturer, including a couple of german sculptors that just love nekkie women and women with big guns (and big weapons). If you want to see some good work, you can look at Cool Mini Or Not. It's a sight were miniature modelers can post their work for comments/criticism. There are some fabulous stuff there, including this 28mm diorama by victoria. I would suggest anyone who has ever thought about doing a fire/torch/oil lamp diorama/vignette look. The OMLS is incredible.
thewrongguy
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 06:15 AM UTC
I might drop into GW after work and pick up a couple figures to see if it's my cup of tea, if it isn't well I'll give them to my baby brother and he can practice with his pellet gun (don't ask me what happened to a old darth vader action figure I gave him, wheres your force now jedi).

Anyways, how do you find painting smaller figures?, do you find it easier or harder then 1/35?

Thanks

Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 06:30 AM UTC

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Anyways, how do you find painting smaller figures?, do you find it easier or harder then 1/35?



Both. At the same time. The GW figures, while at 28mm, tend to be scuplted a bit "bulkier" than the average human. The smaller features, and the incredible amount of detail make it a bit harder. More often than not, you see people pull out a 20/0 brush to do eyes and other fine details.

At the same time, 1/35 figures tend to be mostly "plain clothed" which, to me, is harder. I'm still working on a wet blending technique that will give good shadows/highlights in cloth. If I was a 7+ painter (out of 10), I don't think that there would be much difference between the two scales.

If you're just looking for a figure to paint up, ask one of the sales guys to help you pick a character model in your chosen theme (fantasy vs sci fi, humans/elves/etc.) It will cost between 10 and 25, depending on the model (single model vs mounted vs chariot, etc.) If you decide it's not your cup of thing, toss the painted mini on eBay. There are alot of games/collectors who regularly purchase painted minis for their armies, so you should get at least your money back.
janken64
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Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2002 - 05:05 AM UTC
Hi !

Why not play Warhammer Panzer Battles, Warhammer 40K rules for WW2!!!

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/2541/Rules/wpb/index.html

Have a nice day!!!

Janne Thorne