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Painting: Painting with Oils
Discuss Oil painting techniques.
Bust build: Tarleton
mongo_mel
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 07:24 PM UTC
Hi,
Well, the choice seems overwhelming to do the Tarleton bust for the group build...


For those that want to participate, you have plenty of time to get your hands on one. As most of you may know, I'm not the fasted painter around :-)

As a reminder, I plan on having the bust and accompaning SBS articles completed before you see anything on line. That way, with each installment, you can post questions and pictures as we go along.

The first posting will deal with what I do to prepare the bust for painting.
It will also include the colors and brands I've used to paint him with. I'll also list the brushes (brands and sizes) I've used.
Of course, you're welcome to substitute your own methods, colors and brands to suit yourself. Whatever I list will just be a suggestion and not a requirement. I don't want to put anyone off by insisting that they spend more money on things they may already have in their supplies.
Thanks to all of you that have shown an interest in this project.
Of course, everyone else is welcome to join in with us at any time.
If you've come to this project late, please check out the original thread for more information...
Group build
Thanks again,
Craig
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 08:07 PM UTC
Craig can't wait Im excited like a little kid. If you don't mind me asking where did you pick up this nice bust from online/LHS?

AJ
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 08:49 PM UTC
Hi AJ,
Glad to hear that you're excited about this project. It helps fuel my own fire to heat that.
I got mine off of a local hobbyshop but here's a link to Squadron for it...
Squadron
I'm sure that there are others that carry it too. If someone has another source, please post it up here so that folks have a choice of vendors.
Thanks,
Craig
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 09:36 PM UTC
Thanks Craig I'll have to order it!!!

AJ
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:29 PM UTC
Iíll start looking for one.
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:52 PM UTC
Hi Craig,
I'm definitely in... I just ordered my Tarleton bust from Squadron.
It's shipping today.
I'm looking forward to this. Have built up my supplies lately (brushes, paints, misc goodies)
but haven't had the courage to jump in and try painting with oils.
Should be alot of fun.
Best regards,
Gary
ps - I used your guide for building a "HOT BOX" and it has been a handy thing to use on various projects. Used it alot on my Tin Fish For Tojo diorama to speed up the drying of the Realistic Water and Water Effects.
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:54 PM UTC
Oh oh, Craig:

Grim Reaper beat me to it. . . . But not to worry Brownlee, just called
Squadron (BTW, Colorado Miniatures do not carry Verlinden figures)
Shop in Carrollton, TX and my Tarlton is also on the way. This should be
a lot of fun, Craig. Thanks again for giving of your time and talent in this
way.

Kind regards,
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Posted: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:41 AM UTC

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Iíll start looking for one.


Why not support a sponsor (and member). Military Miniatures Warehouse has it listed as well. John provides great service.
mongo_mel
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Posted: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 06:35 PM UTC
Hi guys,
Good to see that you're all so excited about this project.

Gary, I'm glad that the drying box was of some use to you. It should come in handy for this as it really speeds up the drying time of the oil paints. I've tried searching for that thread about building the box with no luck. Any chance you have it bookmarked? If so, would you please post it here for those who don't know what we're talking about? Thanks.

Al, thanks for that link. Ihaven't dealt with MMH so I didn't think to look there. But I'll check them out now.

Craig
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Posted: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 07:42 PM UTC
Craig,
I saw the HOT BOX on page 2 of your feature "Basics of Painting Figures with Oil Paints".

I printed the photo of your box and scaled mine from the photo using the light bulb as my standard for estimating the dimensions.
Only thing I did differently was to add a turntable that I had sitting around collecting dust for about 25 years.

I'll take some photos of the finished box along with dimensions.
As I stated earlier, it's a handy device to have, I've used it on several occasions to accelerate drying times of different materials other than just paints.

Cheap to build as well. I'll post a list of materials along with the photos for anyone interested in building one. Only took a couple of hours to build.

Best regards,
Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 07:56 PM UTC
Craig thats where I found it as well.
Converted a no longer used tracing box over into one. Itís a great piece of equipment to have.
mongo_mel
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Posted: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:13 PM UTC
Hi guys,
I was thinking of a post I had made with some specific info and this drawing (I found it at least :-) )



Either way, I'm glad it's worked out well for you.
Craig
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Posted: Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:14 AM UTC
Craig,
Here are a few photos of the HOT BOX that I built after seeing yours in your feature article.

I hard wired a 6 foot cord that automatically turns on the light when it's plugged in



I wired the turntable to a switch in the lights base so you can turn the turntable on or off while the light remains on whenever it's plugged in.



I happen to have and old electric rotating display but I suppose a person could use one of those small battery powered jobs if you wanted your work to rotate as it dries.
My box dimensions are very similar to yours 16"W - 12"D - 13"H.
Materials: 1- 4'x4' sheet of 1/2" plywood. Two 1-1/2" hinges. A magnetic latch. A 6'" carry handle. A round ceramic fixture and a square electrical box. And an electrical cord. Oh, almost forgot, 1 60-75 watt light bulb.
An easy build that really comes in handy.
Best regards,
Gary
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Posted: Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 08:44 PM UTC
Hi Gary,
Excellent drying box. I really like the rotating table. Both for the rotation and the elevation of the figure. Nice bonus that it keeps it up higher where there's more heat.
You've got me thinking about improvements to mine now
I might look at mounting 2 bulbs hanging down from the top so I get the heat spread out more. What I do now is just try to get the figure in a corner of the box and the bulb as close as I can get it to the piece. Bulbs hanging down will let me get it closer. Of course I'll probably switch to a pair of 40 watt bulbs then.
Thanks for the pictures and the ideas too
Craig
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Posted: Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 09:25 PM UTC
Craig,
Thanks!
Interesting that you should mention that about adding two bulbs from the top.
One of the things that I noticed when I first used the box was that of course hot air rises and that the temp in the box was immediately hotter toward the top of the box. Placing anything on the elevated turntable put it in the hottest air zone of the box.
I like your idea of changing to two 40 watt bulbs though. You could get more even heat without the need of a turntable. Great idea.

Got the Tarleton figure from Squadron last night.
Your choice for this project is awesome.
The casting is superb and the face is flawlessly handsome.
This should be a blast!!!!!
Best regards,
Gary
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Posted: Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 06:11 PM UTC
Just saw that Greatmodels http://www.greatmodels.com/

Don't know when i'll get aroulnd to ordering mine. I spent more then I had recently and probably wont be making a modeling order for at least a month or 2.


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Posted: Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 06:22 PM UTC
Jacob,
Don't give up. I'm sure you'll have time to catch-up.
I don't think we're going to be blazing along to fast....at least I know that I won't be.
Put old Tarleton t on your next order and then join the fun...
as they say "Better late than never!"
Best regards,
Gary
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Posted: Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 09:59 PM UTC
Hi Jacob,
Gary is right (thanks Gary). This isn't going to leaving the ground for while yet. I'm going to complete the entire build and the installments of the build bfore I post anything on line.
Well, I might post the prep work before everything is done, just so folks will be ready when I get the whole thing completed.
And even if you don't get the bust in time, you can always build it at a later date. And feel free to ask any questions you might have then.
Craig
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2006 - 03:01 AM UTC
Thanks Craig.

If all else fails I will build it at a later date but Iím hoping it wont come to that.
I should be making the order in a month or 2 so if it takes you that long and my order dosnít get back ordered or anything I should be on time.
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Posted: Monday, September 25, 2006 - 03:04 AM UTC
Hello Craig:

Well, I got my Verlinden Tarlton bust from Squadron.com last Thursday.
Sorry AJ, I didn't think to try one of our big A sponsors. Will try to keep that
in mind for my next purchase. However, after sawing the main parts from
their pour blocks, I'm ready to go. But not in any hurry. (Hint hint to you,
Jacob, redneck) Since I also am intending to get involved in the Pegaso
figure competition was well. That Pegaso figure arrived from Colorado
Miniatures on Friday. Whoa really nice, casting. And can say the same,
Craig for the Verlinden Tarlton Bust. Only a couple of very tiny bubbles in
the casting that will be easy to fill with Aves Apoxie Sculpt.

So we're out here, Mongo-Mel and lookin' forward to picking your brains.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 06:06 AM UTC
Hi all...count me in. Ordered the kit and all I will need is a list of paint brand and colors..very scarce on oils...always wanted to try oil and thought this a great way to dive in..thanks.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 08:33 AM UTC
John,
Glad you're going to join us.
With Craig's guidance, we should have fun and learn alot too.
Best regards,
Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 04:13 PM UTC
Hi John,
Welcome aboard. I'm glad that you're interested in this project too.
I'll be posting a list of paints and any other supplies that I think you'll need for the build.
I want to suggest that everyone hold up on assembling their busts. Clean up is fine but I have a couple of tricks that I use for the build that I think you might find useful. Of course you don't have to wait. If you have a method that works well for you then by all means go ahead with the assembly.
Craig
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:14 AM UTC
Hi guys,
Well, the first installment of the group build ishere
It's just an introduction to the build and lays out how I plan on hosting the build.
One thing I'll be doing asking Rudi to lock the two threads we've been using up to now to talk things over. Just so we aren't posting all over the place.
Craig