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Tarleton bust build - progress question
mongo_mel
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Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 06:59 PM UTC
H guys,
I was just wondering how everyone was coming along with the Tarleton bust. I'd really enjoy seeing pictures or just hearing about your progress.

Also, I was approached about the idea of turning this into a campaign.
This wouldn't have to be a competition. It would give those who completed it an award ribbon for their profile

You may remember the Skorzeny bust I mentioned as the other choice for this build. If it helps spark everyones interest, I would be willing to donate it as an award. what do you guys think?

If we make this a campaign, we'll need to pick start and completion dates. I'd like you thoughts on this too. I think everyone involved so far has their bust but I don't know if you have them assembled and primed yet. So how about we say April 1 as a start date? That should give everyone time to get up to speed.
For a finish date, I'd think at least a couple of months but I don't know what the typical campaign duration is. Any thoughts?

I have to admit, making this a campaign would really help get my juices flowing again :-)

Looking forward to hearing from everyone soon.
Craig
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Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:00 PM UTC
Yo Craig I shoulda snaped some photos before I stripped the paint off for I don't know like 5-6 time (losing count). Having some hard times with Oils and don't know if I can explain the problem, alway winding up with brush strokes and tried that stippling thing not sure what I doing wrong with that. A question though should the acrylic base coat color be close to the first color of Oil that you apply?
Iam not gonna give up yet would like to see and compare my results of Oil painted skin compared to my Acrylics painted. I get photos today If I make it to my bench damn work called me in hopefully just for an hour or so.

Thanks Craig

A.J.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:13 PM UTC
Iíve got the first coat of oils on the face. Just still have to do the last shadows and highlights. I was waiting for it to dry first but some things came up out here and Iíve really been busy and just havenít gotten back to it.

I assume if it becomes a campaign we would be allowed to already have the face painted at the start date?
Vic
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Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 08:18 PM UTC

Hi Craig,

He's primed and has the base coat on, will be starting with the oils over the next couple of days.

Great idea to make it a campaign. Could do with an end date quite a way off. My time like most of us is sometimes a bit limited these days.

All the best

Vic
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Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:38 PM UTC
Hi guys,
Great to hear from you all again.
AJ,
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help solve the problem.
If the next attempt turns out the same, please be sure to post some pics.
But my first thought is that you're using too much paint. A little bit of oil paint goes a long way :-) . What you're looking for is really just a skim coat of oils.
Also, are you thinning your oils? I know a lot of guys do that but I don't like it myself.
Jacob,
As far as I'm concerned, you could have it 99% done :-) ...no problems here.
Vic,
I'm all for a long completion time too. I don't want this to become a chore for anyone.
Thanks again guys,
Craig
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 05:36 PM UTC
Hi Craig,

I think in this case the term group-build fits the nature of this more so than campaign.

I think I should just reiterate that although we'll run this as a campaign, in the sense that it'll have an end-date, "official" gallery, and participants will be awarded a snazzy bit of cyber ribbon to show off to family, friends and if necessary to pick up birds in bars , this will still be led by Craig, and the SBS will continue.

We are not planning to merely abandon you. We really would just like to reward your efforts with the little ribbon. But, in order for us to do that, the best way we can is to create this a campaign and have you "enlist". There is absolutely no obligation to do so if you're not interested in the little token ribbon...

Folks, as this SBS has been going since at least Nov/Dec 2006 I am not comfortable with an end date past 30 June 2007. I think a further 4 and a bit months is quite a reasonable period to allow you all to complete your busts?

Naturally Criag's personal deadline for his final SBS installment would probably be late-April to mid-May which would give you all some time to wrap up your own projects. (Nothing like a bit of pressure, hey Craig )

What say you all? Do we have a deal here?

Rudi
Vic
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 07:42 PM UTC

Hi Rudi,

Time scale suits me.

All the best

Vic
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 08:34 PM UTC
Just make the announcement here or PM me and I'll launch the campaign. The campaign proposal is already written and awaiting the approval.
The only modification on that proposal will be the start and end dates of the campaign. please let me know.
Then Craig, the campaign leader will be responsable of all, I'll help at technical issues if I am needed.

Thanks.
Algu
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Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 08:40 PM UTC
Craig & Algu,

Sorry, I should have mentioned, the start date will be set retrospectively to the date of Craig's first SBS post for this group build...

Rudi
mongo_mel
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 07:12 PM UTC
I've just emailed those participants I have addresses for to ask them what they think about making this build into a campaign.
if you are particicapting and don't get my email, please post youtrthoughts here.
If we vote to go this route, I'm going to offer up the Skorzeny bust as a prize to the winner
I told Alguhan (wampum) that I'll give it until the end of the day Friday for responses. If there isn't enough interest, then we'll drop the campaign idea and just let the build continue on it's merry way
Thanks guys.
Craig
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 09:40 PM UTC
HI Craig!

Sounds like a great idea! April first, sounds good. I will say this, I haven't picked up a paint brush since I did my 4x4 GMC almost a year ago I think. Everyone I'm sure is sick of hearing about my physical condition but since last year my meds have doubled and I'm a walking zombie that spends most of his time in bed! The good news, I'm down 30 pounds .

But ya know what? I'd jump on board with you for this one. I've been dying to get this piece started. Keep me posted will ya? Just in case I haven't logged on in a while.

John
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 12:51 AM UTC
Well making it a campaign really doesnít change anything (except for a start and end date and a ribbon.) So it really makes no deferens to me.

I guess I should try finishing up the face tonight.
mongo_mel
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 07:25 PM UTC
Just wanted to bump this thread up for those who missed it.

John...

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The good news, I'm down 30 pounds



That's great John. Most people in that kind of situation usually seem to gain that much weight. Here's hoping that things improve for you and your health soon.

Jacob,...
I'm looking forward to seeing some in progress pics from you soon


Thanks guys,
Craig
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 09:35 PM UTC
Thanks Craig!

God Bless Weight Watchers :-)
redneck
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2007 - 03:46 AM UTC

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Jacob,...
I'm looking forward to seeing some in progress pics from you soon


Will do once it drys some and I get the high lights done. Shadows didnít come out the greatest so I went to try fixing em up some first.
mongo_mel
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2007 - 05:30 PM UTC
Hi guys,
Well, it looks like we've got ourselves a campaign
I do know that this should help motivate me :-)
I looked at my first installments and saw that they were posted on October 21 of last year. So I guess we'll call that the start date.
As for a close date, I'm going to ask that it be the last day of June. A little bit later than Rudi suggested (sorry Rudi ), but that fits into my schedule a litte better.
And I'm going to offer up this piece as a "prize"...

It's the other bust that I originally talked about for this build.
I'd like to have the winner decided by a vote of the general membership if I can. I'll need to ask Rudi and Alguhan for help with that. And for help with the campaign ribbon too.
Once Alguhan makes the campaign official, you'll need to enlist ( at least I think that's how it works, I've only been involved in one and that was several years ago now).

Okay folks, let's get those paint brushes wet!
Good luck to all!

Thanks,
Craig
Vic
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2007 - 05:59 PM UTC

Hi Craig,

Thanks for putting the bust up as a prize, itís a nice one.
The added bonuses and time scale should increase my motivation as well. :-)

I might even get to finish a campaign for a change.

All the best

Vic

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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 10:08 AM UTC

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we've got ourselves a campaign...[snip]...As for a close date, I'm going to ask that it be the last day of June...[snip]... And I'm going to offer up this piece as a "prize"... [snip]...I'd like to have the winner decided by a vote of the general membership if I can. I'll need to ask Rudi and Alguhan for help with that.



Great to hear this campaign is up and running. To be honest I'm not thrilled about the extended close date, but if it suits everyone better, then that suits me fine.

Mighty kind of you to offer the other bust as a prize, Craig. As Algu said in another thread, the gallery has been created, and it won't take us more than a minute or two to set it over to "contest mode" come voting time. Voting will take place in the same manner as the FOTM, PPC and the new Romeo Models Painting Contest.

Shall we say no more than 2 photos of the completed bust to be loaded into the gallery? As usual composites are permitted. (Any more than 2 makes administrating the vote difficult).

Looking forward to seeing all the busts, folks. So get painting

Rudi